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Dirndl and Lederhosen

31 Aug

Dr. Axel Munz was today a guest in the Deutswche Welle. This is why I googled the following about dirndl and lederhosen and copied it. It says that 

  • Traditional Bavarian costumes have had a resurgence in popularity




Tradition makes a comeback for fashion-conscious Bavarians

By Catriona Davies for CNN
February 28, 2011 — Updated 1001 GMT (1801 HKT)
  • Traditional Bavarian costumes have had a resurgence in popularity
  • Prices for dirndls range from 50 euros to 2,500 euros
  • Young people wear the costumes for Oktoberfest, weddings and parties

CNN’s global series i-List takes you to a different country each month. In February, we visit Germany and look at changes shaping the country’s economy, culture and social fabric.

(CNN) — To an outsider, lederhosen and dirndl — the traditional costumes of Bavaria — may seem like an outdated symbol of a bygone age, last seen in “The Sound of Music.”

But the outfits — short leather dungarees for men and wide skirts with corsets for women — have become must-haves for the young and fashion-conscious of Munich in south Germany.

They are particularly popular at Oktoberfest, Munich’s annual beer festival attracting 6.4 million visitors, and increasingly at fashionable parties and weddings.

The German edition of Vogue magazine regularly features Bavarian costumes in its September issue, according to Simone Egger, a researcher in cultural studies, and shops open around the city every August specifically to sell Oktoberfest costumes.

When you see someone in dirndl or lederhosen they look wonderful.
–Lola Paltinger, fashion designer

Lola Paltinger, a designer who sells couture dirndls for 2,500 euros, or about $3,440, said: “When I first went to Oktoberfest everyone was in jeans. The only traditional costumes were dark, sad and unfashionable.

“Now they come in bright colors, modern designs and are more comfortable. It still has a wide skirt and a corset, but it’s one you can breathe, eat and drink in.”

Paltinger began designing dirndls as a project at her fashion college, and after an apprenticeship with Vivienne Westwood, began her own business.

She said: “I was sitting outside at the Oktoberfest with my friends talking about what we were going to do for our diplomas. The atmosphere of the Oktoberfest got to me and I just thought of doing traditional costumes.”

When she started her business 11 years ago, Paltinger sold about 20 dirndls a year. She now sells 1,000 a year, both custom-made and off-the-rack, and supplies 20 to 30 weddings.

She said: “When you see someone in dirndl or lederhosen they look wonderful, and you are really disappointed later when you see them in normal clothes. The dirndls in particular are very sexy and feminine.

“For women there are bright colors and modern styles, but for men you can’t really do lederhosen in a modern way. In my opinion, there’s nothing nicer than a real, traditional lederhosen.”

Of course, most people can’t afford to buy their outfits from designers like Paltinger. You can pick up a new dirndl for 50 to 60 euros or lederhosen for 120 euros, according to Karoline Graf of the Munich Tourist Office, and there is a thriving second-hand market.

Paltinger said: “Many, many shops sell dirndl and lederhosen in the run up to the Oktoberfest. Some of them just open up especially and sell them very cheaply, made in India. It’s a big business.

“Some people say it’s not good to sell cheap ones, but I think it’s really nice that so many young people want to wear them and pay homage to Bavarian tradition.”

Angermaier, a traditional clothes business with two stores in Munich and other temporary stores in high season, has seen lederhosen sales double over the past 10 years. Sales of dirndls have risen 500% over the same period.

Axel Munz, director of the company, said: “The customers have become younger and more trendy. Fashion has found its way into tracht (traditional costumes).

“People wear traditional costumes at weddings, special events or folk festivals, but mainly they wear it at the Oktoberfest.”

Egger, a researcher at the Ludwig-Maximilians University in Munich, wrote a diploma thesis on the popularity of traditional Bavarian costumes.

She said: “About 10 years ago I noticed all the young people wearing dirndl and lederhosen and thought ‘what’s going on?’ I’m a cultural scientist so I wanted to find out why.

“At the beginning, it was just for the Oktoberfest, but now it is for parties and sometimes weddings. Nowadays pretty much everybody in Munich and the surrounding region has at least one traditional outfit.”

She added: “The choice to wear traditional costumes appears to be more than just a fashion trend.

“Possibly, a mobile society wishes to demonstrate affiliation. In times of international networking, local and regional references become even more important.”

She added that the first to take up the fashion were 16 to 18-year-olds who felt free to wear traditional costume precisely because there was no pressure from their parents to do so.

Gabriele Hammerschick, chief buyer of traditional clothes for the clothes store Lodenfrey, said customers had become younger in recent years and bought dirndl and lederhosen all year round for weddings, parties, christenings, Christmas and of course, Oktoberfest.

She said people had rediscovered tradition for its permanence in a fast-paced world.

Graf said: “Twenty years ago, no young men or women would go out in traditional costume because it wasn’t fashionable.

“Now teenagers, students, people of all ages wear them.”



Going non-traditional

15 Jul

This is about the movie “My Happy Family”.


Peter and I watch quite regularly ‘Der Tag’, that is a program on the Deutsche Welle (DW). Today film director Simon Groß was interviewed on that program. Simon pointed out that he made the above movie together with his wife and that to have a close working relationship with your wife may cause some problems.

In the  movie,. the middle aged school-teacher,  who  lives with her husband in an extended very large family, decides she has to move out and live on her own because ‘she cannot breathe”.

This movie is set in Georgia, ” where the language has a special lilt, and where any festive gathering means people will sing, in a rich, resonant chorus. . . .”

Here is a bit more of what it says in one of the reviews to the movie:

“Manana and Soso live with her family, which she’s sick of (and we can see why). They consist of her querulous and bossy mother (Berta Khapava), her brother, her grandfather, her husband, son Lasha (Giorgi Tabidze) and daughter Nino (Tsisia Qumsashvili) and daughter’s husband, augmented on occasion by aunts, uncles and other relatives, as needed. The big squabbles concern Manana’s decision to move into a cheap apartment on her own, leaving her husband and all the rest, but the squabbles themselves show us why Manana would want to take this liberating step. It’s not that she can’t get along with her husband. She can’t breathe.

Her departure is against the wishes of everyone over 25. But it’s a foregone conclusion we’re aware of from the first scene, when she views a sunny if shabby flat in an unfashionable but quiet neighborhood. The price is right, and the decision is made. The objections confirm its validity. But will Manana stay with this decision? Will the tomatoes she plants on the balcony bear fruit? Stay tuned – though the film ends with a question mark, as it should. The conflicts here depicted between traditional and nuclear families, couples and independence, aren’t easily resolved. . . . .”

I am intrigued by the questions that come up because of the movie’s ending. Who knows the answers to all these questions:

Is it better to live in a traditional or in a nuclear family?

Is it better if couples live together or is there some benefit to a couple’s relationship if they each have their own place?

What makes for happy families?



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First Day of Spring 2016, Uta’s Diary

1 Sep

Here in Australia it is the first day of spring today. I just discovered in SPIEGEL ONLINE INTERNATIONAL the following interview:

Expert on MH370 Disappearance: ‘There Is Absolutely No Mystery To What Happened’

Interview Conducted by Marco Evers

Some time ago Marco Evers did another interview about the disappearance of MH370:

So, what really happened? Will we ever know for certain?


I want to come back now to some of the verses I saw in Canberra in the National Museum. Before we entered the museum, we asked whether we were allowed to take pictures. We were told yes, we could take pictures, but only for personal use.
Some pictures I took of these verses, turned out all right, others are too blurred. I have to learn to wait for the right moment before I take a picture. I wished, I could do the blurred pictures again! Well, maybe some other time (!).






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Spiegel Interview

8 Oct


Jane Goodall Interview: ‘Even Chimps Understand Sustainability’

Interview Conducted By and Johann Grolle

Jane Goodall spent years observing chimpazees in the wild. She discovered that the animals can murder and wage war. As an environmentalist, the British activist now spends more time observing humans. She says she still has hope in people.

The Meaning of Life – Mary Robinson

1 Sep

Presented by Geraldine Doogue, Compass explores the interface between religion and life as experienced by individuals and communities – including ordinary Australians, public leaders, religious thinkers and philosophers. #ABCcompass, Sundays 6.30pm

The Moral Compass

Series 29 | Episode 27CCDOCUMENTARY/FACTUAL27 mins

Geraldine Doogue debates the hot-button moral, ethical and religious controversies of our day in this smart and entertaining Compass series, The Moral Compass.

To enquire about obtaining a copy of this program please contact ABC Program Sales 1300 650 587 or

Mary Robinson, Ireland’s first woman President, talks to Irish broadcasting legend Gay Byrne about the people, ideas, values and beliefs that give her life meaning.

A brilliant lawyer and human rights activist before entering politics, she famously challenged the influence of the Catholic Church in Irish society and helped to bring about changes in the law concerning contraception, divorce and homosexuality. And yet she remains the product of a traditional religious upbringing and education and sees those values as the moral engine behind her continuing work for human rights and what she calls climate justice.



Peter B. Todd :

31 Aug 2015 9:51:23am

Splendid interview with Mary Robinson who respects the great religious traditions of the earth while alluding to a numinous principle implicit in cosmology and in the evolutionary process from which humankind’s symbolic consciousness has emerged. Humanity not only participates in a numinous dimension but also in co-creative divinisation by directing the future cosmic evolution. Her comment on Christ was particularly insightful. The implication seemed to be that Christ was an epiphany of a continuing incarnation of God in history as articulated by the fourteenth mystic Meister Eckhart and in the work of such contemporary thinkers as the Jesuit palaeontologist Teilhard de Chardin. This concept of God is archetypal and NOT that of an anthropomorphic, interventionist, creator. I elaborate these ideas in my book “The Individuation of God: Integrating Science and Religion” (Chiron publications 2012) and in my Skype interview with Bruce Sanguin