Please, please, listen to what Mr.. Keating has to say.
And compare this with what our leaders tell us.
Do you think we should do everything what the Americans ask us to do?
How would you proof, really proof, that what the Americans want us to do, is to the benefit of Australians?
Former prime minister Paul Keating examines the merits of the AUKUS submarine deal and its implications for China-Australia relations and regional stability.